
{"id":3078,"date":"2019-11-02T05:01:12","date_gmt":"2019-11-02T05:01:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eu.shop.wacom.eu\/us\/?p=3078"},"modified":"2026-06-05T09:24:04","modified_gmt":"2026-06-05T16:24:04","slug":"an-interview-with-lavender-towne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/an-interview-with-lavender-towne\/","title":{"rendered":"Art, inspiration, and gingerbread disasters: an interview with Lavender Towne"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Haley Newsome is an unusual success story.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Defying the popular image of the hype Youtuber who\u2019s always trying to go bigger, louder, and more extra, she takes a Bob Rossian approach, making her content low-key and relaxing, but always delivering solid, actionable advice. She didn\u2019t chase fame, she\u2019s still surprised when she\u2019s recognized in public, and although I can\u2019t claim to know her, it seems her Youtube persona is essentially her real self: In conversation, she\u2019s soft-spoken, analytical, and somewhat reserved, just as she is in her videos.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She's also the story of a weeb artist who persisted and matured.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She started drawing comics as a toddler, and webcomics in her teens. Her first work as a kindergartner was about a rhinoceros whose horn was too big. \u201cI didn\u2019t know how comics work,\u201d she says, \u201cso I drew the pictures on the front and wrote the dialogue on the back.\u201d She got into digital art at 14 on receiving a Wacom Intuos 4 for Christmas, doing a lot of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Invader Zim, South Park,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and anime fanart.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Her high school webcomic, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"background-color: black;\">[REDACTED]<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which can still be found on <\/span><span style=\"background-color: black;\">[REDACTED]<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,* was drawn in a much more \u201cnormal\u201d anime style, but one with a distinctive twist that shows the beginnings of what she does now.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><sub><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">*I wouldn\u2019t do this to someone.<\/span><\/sub><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She went north to study at Alberta College of Art + Design (now <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.auarts.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alberta University of the Arts<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) where she majored in storyboarding and character design with hopes of getting into the industry. She ended up taking a different path, but character is still her passion and the basis of what draws people to her videos.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There, she started the brief gag comic <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/tapas.io\/series\/disasterpiece\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Disasterpiece<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">which goofed around with many of the same themes about art school and artist life that she now covers more seriously in her videos, and her ongoing passion project <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/tapas.io\/series\/unfamiliar\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unfamiliar<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">which follows <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.witchipedia.com\/def:kitchen-witch\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">kitchen witch<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Planchette and her rabbit familiar Winston as they move into a haunted house and have to enlist the help of the town\u2019s other magic users to exorcise it.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tapas.io\/series\/unfamiliar\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"368\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-1024x368.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3084\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-1024x368.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-300x108.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-768x276.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-1536x552.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-1080x388.jpeg 1080w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-1280x460.jpeg 1280w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-980x352.jpeg 980w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2-480x173.jpeg 480w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/MUNkgNekMlpRHP57OgLqhAwO3Ujakj4Khqksb5CvbREVLPiIXkM8m9818k04UGaM_large_2.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Her sister introduced her to Youtubing, and she started making videos under the name <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/HariSaysMeh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lavender Towne<\/a> in 2016, with a mix of tutorials, let\u2019s plays, and the occasional speedpaint. But she found the most helpful videos were the ones that drew people in. Since then, she\u2019s amassed a million subscribers, a number she says \u201cstill doesn\u2019t seem real,\u201d and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/socialblade.com\/youtube\/c\/lavendertowne\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">over 121 million views<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/69824957_128545061440824_2068043207062535484_n-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3089\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Haley with her Youtube platinum award in September.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She also breaks the art-tube tradition of focusing on technical skill, preferring instead to work in a simplified but instantly recognizable style. It\u2019s characterized by fantastic color palettes and striking character designs but, in her words, \u201cnoodle arms\u201d and \u201csquiggles\u201d for hands, drawing occasional criticism from people who think it\u2019s unprofessional. But as we\u2019ll get into, it\u2019s fully intentional, and in fact, not as easy as it looks.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lately, she\u2019s also a Twitch streamer: She kicked it off in October with a week of streaming daily, then moved to Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays from 3-6 PST. She works on her Youtube content and comic, draws other people\u2019s characters, and plays Jackbox games with the audience. I\u2019ve been watching them for the past couple weeks, and I can confirm that they\u2019re a lot of fun.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I spoke to her shortly after the first week. Our interview ran almost an hour late due to a computer failure on my end, putting me in a pretty appalling mood, but she was gracious and generous with her time.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>So, icebreaker question: Who\u2019s the best birdie, and why is it <\/b><b>Ryouta<\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Do you know what I\u2019m talking about?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">...No?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b><i>Hatoful Boyfriend<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh my God, oh wow. [Laughs] Wait, where did you see that I played that game?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Research.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, look, I personally like the doctor the best.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/ShuuIwamineRemakeICPSS.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3085\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For anyone confused,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&nbsp;Hatoful Boyfriend&nbsp;<em>is a dating sim where you romance talking birds, as symbolized by anime boys<\/em>.<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Image from the <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/hatoful.fandom.com\/wiki\/Shuu_Iwamine\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hatoful Boyfriend Wiki<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Really? Interesting choice.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Laughs] I\u2019ve just never encountered a yandere route. Well, with a bird. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>He\u2019s such a terrible perso- ...bird, though.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A little bit, sure. I suppose.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>I mean, he does cook and feed you one of your other dating options.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Look, nobody\u2019s perfect.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Anyway, first real question: Would you say your path to being a professional artist was fairly straightforward?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In some ways it was, but my destination was a little different. I expected it to go another way: I pictured I would be doing internships, then moving into the industry. So, as far as becoming a social media artist, that ended up being a surprise. But it happened straight out of art school, so in some ways, I went straight from school to an art job.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Did you always know that being an artist was what you wanted to do?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I was really little, I wanted to be a veterinarian, and then a herpetologist. But after a while, I got into writing, and after some time of being really into writing novels and stuff, I decided I wanted to start adding art.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Did studying storyboarding in art school change your style, or help you loosen up and draw faster?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I had a lot of different classes, and a lot of them were not oriented that way: You were expected to refine and refine and refine\u2014but whenever we had an assignment that was more about getting ideas out, I always really did a lot better with those. I think it was sort of a natural thing that ended up being nurtured by those classes.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And what was it about character design that spoke to you more than other types of art?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I liked thinking about how somebody\u2019s past and their story would change them visually. It\u2019s an emotional sort of logic, where you\u2019re trying to make sure that people can get to know them just by looking at them. It felt like a fun puzzle to solve, almost.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>So, story is the primary thing you\u2019re thinking of when you\u2019re drawing characters?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes. Story has always been my biggest thing. Weirdly enough, art is always a tool for me. I know a lot of people love art first and story second, but I think I\u2019m the other way around.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And it seems like your actual drawing process is fairly simple? To confirm: You do a fast undersketch on one layer, then ink over it in the next one, then flats in the next one, and then hard shading on the last one? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, pretty much. It depends on what I\u2019m doing, but that\u2019s usually my thing. I never do two sketches; it\u2019s always extremely loose so that I still feel like I\u2019m drawing when I\u2019m doing the inking part. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And is there anything about the process that doesn\u2019t make it onto video?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oftentimes, I\u2019ll do thumbnail sketches to feel out the idea and see if it\u2019s something that\u2019s actually going to work. Because I noticed that when I didn\u2019t do that, sometimes I\u2019d realize that I hate the idea midway through doing it. But other than that, you\u2019re seeing the whole process from start to finish.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Does your art style being less realistically proportioned also make it easier to work off the top of your head?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In some ways it does. Weirdly, at times the stuff that looks the laziest ends up being the hardest work. I\u2019m kind of notorious for my spaghetti arms and stuff: A lot of people think I do them because it\u2019s easier, but I actually think that drawing out a normal arm is simpler because you\u2019re not trying to make perfectly parallel curved lines \u2026 But it does make things a lot faster. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"808\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3109\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/1-1.jpg 700w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/1-1-260x300.jpg 260w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/1-1-480x554.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Disasterpiece<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>That\u2019s largely a digital problem though.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Laughs] Yeah, when I\u2019m drawing by hand, it\u2019s not that bad.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>But it seems like you\u2019ve incorporated what I always thought was Photoshop\u2019s most frustrating aspect into your art style: the lack of line stabilization.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s true. People said my style changed when they released the smoothing, because it was the first time in years that I\u2019d had access to that feature. The wobbliness really has become part of my style now.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>The way you do backgrounds is also very wiggly and stylized almost to the point of abstraction. Like, some people have pointed out that Planchette lives in a loaf of bread. What inspired that?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pretty much. [Laughs] That comes from <em>Unfamiliar<\/em> being something that was therapeutic for me. Trying to make the backgrounds a character is the only way I could do them without hating them. And because I wasn\u2019t planning <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unfamiliar <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">as a professional product, I was doing it to deal with the stress of art school in my free time, which I had barely any of, I didn\u2019t put in the work. And now, canonically, her house is all wobbly. [Laughs]<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I mean, it\u2019s supposed to look like a skull\u2026 But it kind of looks like a loaf of bread.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/House-Edit.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3093\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Do you have a pre-prepared palette when you go into a drawing?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I basically don\u2019t prepare much of anything before I start drawing. This is partially because lately, it\u2019s been all about speed and getting things done as quickly as possible, so for stuff like palettes and references, if I feel like I need them, I\u2019ll grab them while I\u2019m working, but I usually try it without first.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Is color theory something you ever have to think about, or is it just second nature?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ve always felt like it was second nature. Usually, I have a pretty basic strategy, which is, \u201cWhat color do I want to be the one that people notice first?\u201d That one\u2019s allowed to be the most saturated, and everything else I just try to cool down. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s all intuitive. Weirdly, when I was learning about theory, that was the first time I\u2019d ever had trouble with color. I had a conflict about how things should go\u2014I was trying to do everything \u201cright\u201d with all the different color schemes, and it just looked weird to me. I drew a lot of black and white stuff after my first color theory class because it was so difficult. [Laughs]<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>It just scared you away from color altogether.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Laughs] Isn\u2019t it obnoxious? I must\u2019ve been a terrible student!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>But would you say your art style\u2019s accessibility is part of what makes you popular as a teacher?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think so. When I first came into the Youtube art space, [tutorial videos] had sort of a negative reputation. A lot of people would come to these artists like, \u201cHey, how do I make my art better,\u201d and a lot of their reaction was like, \u201cYou\u2019ve just gotta practice!\u201d I remember thinking, \u201cThat\u2019s such obvious advice, it would be cool to be able to make tutorials that help people in a bit of a more direct way.\u201d And my art\u2019s not very intimidating, so it does make it easier for people to approach it. ...I mean, I hope so!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Do you know what made your channel take off, though? Because it seems like you had a pretty meteoric rise from 2016 to 2017.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don\u2019t know specifically what happened, but my \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLhmHswx9NVfWsMFT-13FOg1-B1-UMMcW6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do This, Not That<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d series seemed to walk the line \u2026 It seems controversial and then, when you click on it, it\u2019s just me trying to be helpful, and I think that was a recipe for success in some way. Those videos really popped off.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"COLOR THIS, NOT THAT (Coloring Tips and Mistakes to Avoid)\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hK33BsDu4Po?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The most popular of the early series.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After that, it was mostly experimenting with stuff that I hadn\u2019t seen other art Youtubers doing, like correcting books. Stuff that I thought would be entertaining.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Do you have an idea of what you would call \u201cyour average viewer?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I used to think so, but as I\u2019m meeting them more in real life, I\u2019m realizing that I have a lot of range in my audience, which makes me really happy. I get a lot of comments from young girls who have big dreams about going to art school and becoming professional artists, but I\u2019ve met all kinds of different people who follow my channel, and I think the only unifying thing is that they really like stylization and they really like story.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And do you have any advice for aspiring art Youtubers?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Honestly, I would say my biggest advice is\u2026 Try not to do what I\u2019m doing. Try not to do what any of the art Youtubers are doing. That\u2019s the secret. Youtube is a place for novelty, and I think that\u2019s the reason my channel did well: At the time, there weren't many people who were using art as a tool to talk about stuff rather than just doing speed drawings over music or reviewing pencils; those two things were all art Youtube was about. So try to find your niche, and find something that I\u2019m not thinking of and that the rest of my peers aren\u2019t thinking of. I think that\u2019s the only way to make it nowadays. You\u2019ve got to do something new.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>I wanted to get into your influences. Going through the things you\u2019ve said you were inspired by, I can see where you took small elements from each one. If I can list them off\u2026 It seems like the bases for your current style are <\/b><b><i>Invader Zim <\/i><\/b><b>and Gorillaz?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Laughs] Oh yeah, you\u2019ve got it.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"572\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-1024x572.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3101\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-768x429.jpg 768w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-1080x604.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-980x548.jpg 980w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot-480x268.jpg 480w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/FIXING-AWKWARD-FANART-FROM-10-YEARS-AGO-11-14-screenshot.jpg 1270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Zim <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">fanart from 2009, and <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=IlN9xAXjJvI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2019 redraw<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Did the noodle arms and strange eye shapes come from <\/b><b><i>Zim<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They didn\u2019t go quite as deep into doing the weird symbols in the eyes, but pretty much. And the super-exaggerated proportions and certain sharpnesses that I still use a little bit, definitely came from <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Zim<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Where <\/b><b><i>did <\/i><\/b><b>you get the idea for the symbols in the eyes?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was actually from watching those really old jazz cartoons and the original<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Betty Boop<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> stuff. I liked how their bodies would...<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There\u2019s an animation short that I just love where Betty Boop is being carried around in a glass coffin and literally, the singer is just morphing into different things as he\u2019s walking and talking. I like that ability to communicate something, and I thought that would be good for comics.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Oh, that\u2019s the Koko the Clown one with Cab Calloway!<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes! It\u2019s amazing.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>What about <\/b><b><i>FLCL?<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I love <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FLCL. <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was super influential really early on. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The manga is actually what I was into first, just because it looks like such a mess, but at the same time, it\u2019s so clear. I loved the fact that it looked like it was barely holding itself together, but it had the same level of flow that really clean comics do. And that it didn\u2019t feel like it had to explain itself to you\u2014there was something confrontational about it in that way. It was like, \u201cThis is just happening, this is the universe we\u2019re in, and we\u2019re just gonna <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">go<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/flcl-00-e1572652434474.jpg\" alt=\"flcl cover\" class=\"wp-image-3114\" width=\"531\" height=\"750\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Image from <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/FLCL-Omnibus-Gainax\/dp\/1595828680\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Amazon<\/span><\/i><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>It\u2019s amazing that you mentioned that, because I had that exact same thought while I was researching this interview. Getting back to accessibility, I read it too when I was twelve, and it was the first manga that made me think, \u201cOh, this is attainable! I could learn to draw like this!\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah! It\u2019s amazingly beautiful art, but it feels doable.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b><i>Scott Pilgrim<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/tumblr_no7u5gjU7q1stbkjno3_1280-1024x575.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3086\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Image from <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/radiomaru.tumblr.com\/post\/119429813958\/dicktripwire-wallpapers-from-scott-pilgrim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bryan Lee O\u2019Malley<\/span><\/i><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Big time. Same kind of thing, I was like, \u201cWow, I think I could actually make comics.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>I found an unusual one: <i>Superjail<\/i>?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"The Warden&#039;s Shape-Shifting (Superjail!)\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-_CKJ4q5Tu4?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>CW<\/strong>: Cartoon gore.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Laughs] Wow, you really do your research, huh? ...Yeah, I had many edgy phases in my life, and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Superjail <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">definitely fed into everything I was into at the time. It was bright but super violent, and the animation, isn\u2019t it at a super-high frame rate or something? It just didn\u2019t look like anything that was on TV at the time. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b><i>Note: <\/i><\/b><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I checked afterwards, and this is true. Superjail! was drawn at an astounding 36-40 frames per second depending on the scene, over twice the industry standard for computer animation and thrice that of hand-drawn cartoons and anime. Back in the day, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AKIRA <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Thief and the Cobbler <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">were considered insane for having 24<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Wes Anderson?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m a big fan. All of his stop-motion and a lot of his live action stuff are some of my top movies of all time.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>It seems you take a lot of color inspiration from him, but not his obsessions with front views, leading lines, and symmetry.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I feel like I would do more symmetry stuff, but I do things too quickly; I\u2019m not as meticulous as him. But I do like the pastels.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, and in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Moonrise Kingdom<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, there\u2019s a scene where a dog gets shot with an arrow, and instead of showing that, they flash to an image of an arrow and a few different sounds. That inspired me a lot. I like that he\u2019s willing to do things that are unconventional.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Moonrise Kingdom (6\/10) Movie CLIP - Was He a Good Dog? (2012) HD\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/z5xRXKOAu-Q?start=59&feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>TW<\/strong><\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>:<\/strong><\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Animal cruelty.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>It seems like you take a similar approach in that you often skirt around creepy things or horror in your work, but aside from the Creepypasta series, you don\u2019t go overtly dark. You like the idea of not directly showing things like that, but insinuating them? <\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, it\u2019s interesting because usually a filmmaker would revel in that action-oriented violent moment, and instead, he just doesn\u2019t show it at all. It was a sort of restraint.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Those are] my sensibilities in general. When I first started doing <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unfamiliar, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">for example, I wanted to create a world that was very soft, where nobody\u2019s a bad person, but there\u2019s an undercurrent of dark things throughout all of it. It\u2019s like being passive-aggressive with dark themes [laughs]: I\u2019ll never put it on the surface.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3088\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>How about pastel goth and lolita fashion? Is that where you get a lot of your outfits and color palettes?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For sure. I was really obsessed with gothic lolita.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>And it seems like lately, you\u2019ve been taking a lot of inspiration from Japanese and Korean pop art, like superflat and animation memes?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s interesting, a lot of people don\u2019t pick up on that. Anytime I had to do a research project in school, Japanese pop art was my main obsession, and I definitely think it leaks into my art. <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Junko_Mizuno\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Junko Mizuno<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Takashi_Murakami\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Murakami<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and a few other artists, I was definitely inspired by.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3121\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-980x980.jpg 980w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1-480x480.jpg 480w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/D99EN6uVAAE8zSH1.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><\/span><em>Junko Mizuno wood prints.&nbsp; Image from <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Junko_Mizuno\/status\/1143707841053646855\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>You spent a few months in Japan. How did that happen, and what did you do while you were there?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My partner, who I\u2019m living with, had a job that required him to go to Japan [to work on a game], and I\u2019ve been wanting to go there for so long, so I was like, \u201cI work on the internet, we might as well go together.\u201d And I basically just did all my Youtube stuff from there.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Where in Tokyo were you?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For the first bit, we were in Shibuya, and after that, we stayed in Shinjuku for the rest of the three months.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Nice! Would you say Shibuya and Harajuku fashion rubbed off on you while you were there?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/11\/12481589803_3d6da18fdf_o-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3090\" title=\"\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Models in Harajuku several years ago. It and Shibuya are two adjacent wards of Tokyo considered Japan\u2019s trend capitals. Image from <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/tokyofashion\/12481589803\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tokyo Fashion<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A little bit. I\u2019d say the fashion scene in Japan has cooled down a lot since when I first got interested in it. Harajuku wasn\u2019t as \u201cexploding with weird stuff\u201d as I\u2019d come to expect, and I\u2019ve seen a lot of fashion blogs I\u2019ve followed saying things are getting more toned down with the colors recently, partially because a lot of the pop-up shops are getting edged out by like, Forever 21. [Laughs.] And it\u2019s changing the fashion around there, which is sad.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But I saw some really beautiful things when I was there. It was interesting [comparing it to] what my expectations were from when I was a kid obsessed with Japan: The reality of it was just as interesting, but in a lot of different ways. I ended up being more inspired by the architecture than big, crazy fashion or the weird stuff people would write articles about.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So many novels and things from Japan employ magical realism, and when I went there, I understood why. You\u2019ll be walking down a busy street in the middle of Tokyo\u2014it\u2019s like New York, it\u2019s bustling, there\u2019s a million people\u2014and you step to the side into an alley, and suddenly all the noise is gone. You walk a little ways, and then there\u2019s an old-fashioned shrine in the middle of the city. It\u2019s like, \u201cWhat? Where am I?\u201d The constant mixture of ancient, beautiful things and all this modern stuff that looks like it was built yesterday was so fascinating.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Going forward, what are your goals?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Honestly\u2026 I recently hit a million subscribers, and that was my biggest Youtube goal since I started. I didn\u2019t even think it was possible. But ever since that happened, I\u2019ve been feeling weirdly like the wind\u2019s been taken out of my sails. I\u2019m like, \u201cWell\u2026 What do I do now?\u201d It was a weird moment, because obviously I was really happy, but at the same time, I\u2019m starting to feel like I want to try other things in addition to Youtube. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I really want to do more comic work, because it\u2019s been my side project that always gets pushed off whenever I\u2019m running out of time. If I could make my story more important, that would be great.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Are there any other downsides to being a Youtuber?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think the hardest part for me lately is that Youtube rewards doing things quickly\u2014you want to have as many drawings per video as you can, and you want it to be fast and exciting for people\u2014and that\u2019s baked itself into the way that I work now. I feel like I\u2019m always in a hurry and I can never really finish what I\u2019m drawing. That\u2019s been my biggest frustration with that style of content creation.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I [normally] like it because I am someone who likes to not fuss over things too much and just get my ideas out there, but it\u2019s getting a little fast even for me. And it\u2019s harder for me to look back on my Youtube stuff and feel as proud as I do of a comic or something like that.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Speaking of that, you give a lot of advice for being noticed on social media, but do you ever worry we\u2019re getting to the point where algorithms are gatekeeping what art we <\/b><b><i>get <\/i><\/b><b>to see instead of helping us find what we <\/b><b><i>want <\/i><\/b><b>to see?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah. One of the things I worry about with the algorithms is that it seems like they\u2019re bubbling people. It seems like a lot of these sites just want you to keep consuming the same stuff over and over, and I do wonder how people are going to stretch their legs and experience new things when our media is just trying to give us as close to what we already like all the time.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It used to be, when I would [watch] a video that\u2019s different from what I\u2019d usually watch: a soap-cutting video or something I\u2019d never usually click on, the recommendations next to it would be other soap content, so I\u2019d be able to go down a rabbithole with that. But now, it seems like if I click on something even slightly out of my comfort zone like an ASMR video, it\u2019s going to send me back to drawing stuff immediately. It wants me back in my normal videos.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m basing the get-noticed videos off of my own experience because I don\u2019t really know else to help. [Laughs]<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"WHAT SEPARATES POPULAR ARTISTS FROM THE REST! [How to Get Your Art NOTICED FINALLY]\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OyTWVYHgCXM?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Do those frustrations limit you or motivate you?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think they motivate me. I never would\u2019ve seriously tried Twitch just a few months ago, but the fact that I\u2019m realizing there\u2019s an upper limit on how much fun I can have doing the same thing all the time is forcing me to try new things.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s hard to complain about Youtube because it\u2019s been such a good job to me. It\u2019s been so fun, and I get to do so much of what I would\u2019ve wanted in my free time and make that my job, so it\u2019s hard to feel bad about it. But at the same time, I think it\u2019s healthy to be constantly trying to do new things, and pushing myself to keep going to places where I\u2019m not going to automatically get noticed, and see if I can build things up again in new spaces.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph\"><b>You\u2019ve said that one of your other dreams is to be the showrunner for an animated series. What would you want it to be about?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There\u2019s a story that almost got picked up right when I was about to graduate from school, and I had to choose between it and Youtube. It\u2019s been haunting me ever since. It\u2019s the same one I\u2019d want to make into a show, because I have a lot of faith in it, and I think it would work really well episodically:<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It would be a kids-to-teens-oriented show about Girl Scouts\u2014I\u2019d probably call them something else\u2014but basically, it turns out that when you get all the patches, there\u2019s a secret agent level. Three girls get all the patches at the same time and they make this secret force of Extreme Elite Girl Scouts, and they go on adventures. But it turns out one of them has gone rogue: [She\u2019s] doing yarn bombings and all these DIY crimes throughout the country, and making the company look bad.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They don\u2019t know who it is, but it has to be one of them because she knows too much to be an outsider. So these girls have to find the rogue Girl Scout somewhere in the country, [and they\u2019re doing] all this detective work.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>That sounds really good. When you say it almost got picked up, do you mean published as a comic, or\u2014<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah. I was looking at the time demands, and my Youtube had just started taking off, and I decided to do that instead. Which I don\u2019t regret at all, but\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Finally, walk me through the creation of your greatest work: Gingerbread Planchette.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sure! For the first step, you\u2019ve gotta get your gingerbread dough that your sister made, then make sure that you don\u2019t cut it out or anything\u2014that\u2019ll look too nice. Just grab lumps and smash them down with your fingers, then put black currants in for the eyes. That\u2019s pretty much how you do a Gingerbread Planchette!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Brrd1E7lYSi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"828\" height=\"544\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2023\/08\/gingerbread.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-812541\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2023\/08\/gingerbread.jpg 828w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2023\/08\/gingerbread-480x315.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 828px, 100vw\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lavender Towne\u2019s Youtube Channel can be found <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCD4XIm3ZFhT72WjqhIXMN9w\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Her Twitter is <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/lavendertowne?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and her Instagram is <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lavendertowne\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. As of this writing, she\u2019s streaming on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from 3-6 Pacific Time, <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/lavendertowne\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Questions and answers edited for clarity and concision with permission.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">About the Author<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/07\/CS_Jones_avatar-150x150.png\" alt=\"CS Jones\" class=\"wp-image-1841\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/07\/CS_Jones_avatar-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/07\/CS_Jones_avatar-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/07\/CS_Jones_avatar-480x482.png 480w, https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/40\/2019\/07\/CS_Jones_avatar.png 595w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CS Jones is a Philadelphia-based freelance writer and illustrator. He spends his spare time listening to Spotify and falling down Youtube rabbitholes. Someday, he\u2019ll finish that graphic novel. In the meantime, his work is best seen at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/thecsjones.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thecsjones.com<\/a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/thecsjones\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@thecsjones<\/a>&nbsp;on Instagram.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecsjones.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Website<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/thecsjones\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":3085,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2481,2919,2317],"tags":[383,376,385],"class_list":["post-3078","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-artist-feature","category-manga","category-digital-drawing-painting","tag-haley-newsome","tag-interview","tag-lavendertowne"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3078","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3078"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3078\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3085"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3078"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3078"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/community.wacom.com\/en-us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3078"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}